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Alright y ‘all, welcome to another episode of the Y ‘all Are Crazy Ranch podcast. Today we have as our guest our ranch manager, Mr. John Wayne Manning. You know what John? I got John Wayne on my coffee cup right there.
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It’s a good -looking coffee cup.
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Yeah, I mean how how cool is it to have a name like John Wayne and Be a ranch manager, you know, I mean that’s it don’t get better than that. Does it? No You know, I’ve told some people sometimes that your name John Wayne and They’re like shut up. Man. Are you serious? And I’m like dude. I’m serious It’s a heart attack and they’re like, that’s like the most American awesome thing I’ve ever heard of yeah We don’t get to choose them You don’t get to choose them.
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We just have to try to live up to them.
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Yeah, so You’ve been our ranch manager now for what a couple of years three years maybe going on three years going on going on three years and Yeah, so we met about three years ago and you actually at the time we met you were actually living on the ranch Yes, you were living on the ranch, right?
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Yes, so we lived here
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I guess from 2014 until when did you guys buy this 18 or 19 um no we I think we bought it in 2022 okay either 22 or 23 yeah yeah because we’ve owned it about three years now okay I think yeah so from 2014 until that time we lived here raised our kids here on this ranch or mostly I mean they were still young that’s true you know that most our childhood was here so you’ve got some good stories too of the kids yeah you know we’re getting ready to have like a snowstorm you know well supposedly and didn’t you have a kid yeah slide off of a roof so my middle child Evan
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Yeah, speak this one loudly cuz we gotta hear it.
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Yeah, we come home. I don’t know Carrie and I were somewhere Yeah, we get home and the the the Gator is parked beside the house so that was our first clue something was up and then there’s a You know slide marks off the roof and we get in the house and Evans got a broke leg So he’s like, yeah We were on the roof we jumped off I fell in a hole but the story was they took their new sleds they got in and we’re sliding sledding off the house and Anyways, they It didn’t work out real great, but it’s a pretty good story and to be fair This house has got like an add -on on the back and and so and it ties into the existing roof line And so the roof line kind of comes down pretty low after the add -on
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and you know uh the back of the house faces the north and i’m sure that the snow was blowing in and it kind of probably had a good amount of snow there yeah so if i was a kid i’d probably think the same way that it’s not that far down you know but it’s still what seven foot maybe oh yeah yeah at least seven foot so it’s further than it appears i guess i guess the story was like they were just running around in the yard playing and and they he fell in a hole but the truth came out they were sledding off the top of the house and landed wrong and anyways so they didn’t want you to know no no they were hiding that fact they’re hiding it all the uh you know information was there when you started looking a little bit the evidence was showing uh -huh yeah sliding off the house yeah that’s the beauty about uh snow is it it leaves tracks and uh if you’re if you walk through it you’re gonna know when you see sled marks you you just follow where they came from yeah but
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You know, I know when Ashley and I bought the ranch You know, we had had some cows at our last place and we had 40 acres and we had some longhorns and we’d had Some cows and the place before that we’d had some goats and but I mean truth be told I mean I did I didn’t know a lot, right? I mean I knew enough how to keep him alive but past that it was like well, I don’t I don’t know a lot, but you know, we got to meet you and Carrie and You know Ashley and I bought the place and you guys moved out and you know, we didn’t know each other and then You know, we brought our cows here and it started off with this place here There’s 240 acres and I was like, you know, it wouldn’t be bad.
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I can figure out how to how to handle that I was I really couldn’t but that’s what I was telling myself and and then I needed some concrete poured in one of the barns and I remember reaching out to you because I knew you had done concrete and you came in with the boys and poured the concrete and
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And then I had Evan working for me a little bit.
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Yeah. Yeah, so Evan started his after -school weekend job Yeah, and I don’t remember what he was doing at the time But I think he cleaned up some yards cut some tree limbs and stuff.
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Okay, you know just just stuff like that Yeah, and I remember I was like man We need a ranch manager, you know and I think in that time maybe we had bought another 160 acres that came up for sale connected to the 240 acres now we had 400 acres number. I can’t manage all this stuff and I remember asking Evan of like what you were doing or something and you were doing concrete, you know and
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I remember I remember thinking talking to ashes like we need to try to recruit John Wayne I was like, I don’t know what that even means or what that even looks like or even if we can afford it I was like I have no idea And I remember I I was like I think I prayed about it for a while and then I was like I’m gonna make A bold action and I remember I got you a gift bag. You remember this?
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Yes.
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Yes couple shirts I got some shirts made so we got some denim shirts kind of like this denim jacket And they were just they’re Wrangler shirts, right? Yeah, I got it on under here. Oh, do you really? Yeah. Yeah, it’s like a pearl snap Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I was like I’m gonna get this thing branded and I’m gonna put ranch manager on one chest and I’m gonna put like here’s a the yellow crazy ranch brand on the other chest and write a note and have it, you know, have a son give it to him and kind of like just
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Assume he’s gonna be on our team one day, right? I’m giving him a title of ranch man I don’t even know the guy I don’t even know you, you know, and I’m like, we’ll see what happens I was all excited about it. I wrapped it up put it in the deal had Evan give it to him a Few days go by crickets I remember asking Evan I said, did your dad get the gift?
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He said yeah, I gave it to him I said Okay Yeah, I didn’t I didn’t even know how to think about that at the time or yeah, you know I was going kind of through a pretty good transition you know, we went from being ranchers and construction workers to kind of just trying to go just all -out construction and
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Manage, you know people and and jobs and do the whole thing and that was it was pretty tough And then work gets slow and so anyways Anyways, our path crossed again and we got together on the deal.
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So it did maybe about a month later. Yeah, probably Yeah, yeah, I don’t even know if you called me or if I followed up with you. I don’t remember I think I called you and told you I was interested in the job and you know, oh, yeah Yeah, so then we went and we had pizza Yeah had me, you know and you and Ashley and Carrie we just went and because you know We still didn’t even know each other, right? And so we went and ate and Ash and I had rode out like kind of a little bit of a vision of the Ranch at least our goals and then just listed out a bunch of job duties that we could think of you know And at the point at that time we had no experience with having a ranch manager or having a big ranch or you know So we did I mean we don’t know, you know, but we had a good conversation and then You
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Don’t know about a week or so later.
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I guess we both both parties agreed and We we came on board and been building ever since yeah, and and when we started we were more of a conventional You know feeding cattle and and weed spraying and fertilizing and yes That’s the background. You know we came from and and so Within what six months to a year we were Down the regenerative path. We were and yeah, you know a lot of changes and it’s it’s hard to wrap your mind around at first, but It’s it’s all for the better and it’s really a good practice Yeah, cuz you had run this ranch for you know, but a decade or more, right?
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And actually, you have been on this ranch almost your entire life, on and off again.
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As a kid, you hauled hay here. Yeah. So we’ve had a… I’ve been tied to this place for a long time for some reason.
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So that’s pretty wild when you think about it. You know? But, you know, when you were managing this place for somebody else and living here, that’s right. You know, you put down fertilizer, you sprayed it for weeds, you bailed the hay off of it. You ran it that away. You fed cubes, I’m sure. Yes.
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So, and now we’re kind of paying for it and trying to build out of that. But, you know, when you just take and take and take and don’t put back…
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It takes a toll on a place and and you know our carrying capacity for cattle is way less than it should be at this time But we have to we have to start getting grasses and you know Everything back working. We’re right now. We’re a brooms edge. And yes, if you know what brooms edge is it it’s a real high -quality very high quality Very nice But it’s not right. It’s just I mean, there’s just no nothing eats it It’s it’s a it’s a poor, you know that shows that your pastures are wore out and and Lacking yes, so when you take hay every you know Every year twice a year a lot of times and just keep taking and don’t put anything back. That’s what you’ll end up with and
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so we’re trying to rebuild and and we rotationally graze now to try to make it better and give the ground a break and then you know hit it pretty hard and get off of it and We’re starting to see things We I mean I saw you know five or six quail in a cubby this year And that’s the first cubby of quail I’ve seen on here for I don’t know a long time and that’s um We have turkeys. We have some deer I’m seeing a lot of cottontail rabbits a lot of rabbits and that’s that’s been a thing that was missing uh -huh a Turtles I don’t maybe it was just a good year for turtles, but I saw more turtles this year I’ve seen in a long time. Yeah, so you know I think we’re making some things You know happening and it’s working out for the better, and it’s just gonna keep getting better So yeah what we’ve learned. I mean how many books do you think we’ve read on regenerative ranching? Oh?
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But does it? I don’t know.
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I don’t know eight.
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Yeah, probably yeah, you know, we’ve gone to a Regenerative ranching school into Greg Judy’s school part about two years ago now. Yeah, you know, we’ve just learned a lot about managing land and the importance of a healthy soil and You know when you when you spray things all the time that those artificial chemicals end up killing the microbes in the soil in Life and when you’re taking the grass off the place and you’re cutting it down and taking the hay You’re removing stuff off of the land, right and instead of keeping stuff on then on the land and letting life take place so you’re actually killing life in a lot more ways than most people even realize and You know, we’ve had a few years at this deal now and now we’re seeing the land start to heal It ain’t there yet But we’re seeing improvement and we’re seeing this other wildlife come back
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You know me and you walked the ranch quite a bit and even last year. We were hearing quails whistle Yeah, and it’s like whoa like You take that for granted. You don’t hear that anymore now when you hear it. You’re like, holy cow. They’re back Um, yeah, we’re not killing everything.
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They’re trying to eat, you know, because like, you know all the herbicides and pesticides you know, they they’re they’re they’re they target certain things, but They’re not uh, they don’t discriminate. They kill all of it. Yes, you know, uh, the good ones and the bad ones. So uh If you start, you know Get away from that There’s a lot of good insects for every bad insect. Yes, you know If you have weeds they’re there for a reason or forbs as we call them now You know, they’re healing something there’s something missing and whatever’s lacking. They’re they’re trying to put it back or you know uh
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Just keep growing and and get it better Yeah Cuz we’ve we’ve talked about this before when you kill something in the in the cycle of life It doesn’t just kill that thing because something else is living on that thing, right? You know and it starts a chain reaction that a lot of people aren’t aware of you know And so the way we’re ranching now is what’s called regenerative ranching and we’re trying to heal the soil and work With nature and not against it You know, we’re trying to we’re trying to grow animals and land and grass the way God intended in our opinion and not have any Artificial outside stuff, you know, we don’t Vaccinate our cattle willy -nilly What I mean by that is like if they’re have a sickness or something like that and they need medication by all means We’re gonna save the animal But we don’t just blanket Worm everything and blanket vaccinate everything, you know, we’re trying to build resilient animals We’re trying to build a resilient ground and soil and grasses
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And I think it’s going really well. We’ve got some good momentum. I think in two more years, we’re gonna see a pretty significant Difference, you know, I’ll say this about Our journey so far.
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I mean it’s easy to get kind of discouraged because you the changes You follow people and and they’re so good at it already and and established But what you don’t realize is they’re 30 years into the process of oklahoma grassfed beef. Yes, and we’re you know, two to three years in it and We’re just not there, you know, and it’s just you’re like, why is this not happening faster? Yes, it didn’t it didn’t it didn’t get this bad overnight. So It takes time to go back.
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Yes, it does and
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A lot of people can look at others that are successful and think that they can get there overnight or short period of time and it’s that middle and that delayed gratification that a lot of people quit in the middle of because it takes too long and it’s too hard or they don’t have the patience, you know, that’s a real thing. So let me ask you this, John, when we first got to know each other and came on the board, you know, what made you take on the ranch manager job?
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Well, ranching is something I’ve always loved. I mean, that’s what I wanted to do from the time I was a little kid until now. I still want to do it. I don’t know, you know, necessarily why I took the manager job or whatever, but, you know, I just want to help and make it better.
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You know, I got a I wanted a job and I love ranching so it works out good It doesn’t work out good, you know, and really we’ve talked about this before There’s not many ranch manager jobs around anymore Not in this area for sure not it not around here You know a lot of that’s you know in cattle country, you know big open sky country and all that There’s some ranch managers positions, but yeah, maybe they got like thousands of cows or something like that, right, you know So that’s that’s that’s true and but You know one of the what are some of them, you know I know when we were talking and you were coming on board you had done a lot of different jobs in the past Oh, yeah, and we’ve talked about this before about young kids Maybe doing tough jobs or as a what that guy’s got that show called like dirty jobs
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I don’t know.
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I don’t know but I like that guy. Yeah, but he’s talking about dirty jobs Mike Rowe, that’s it. Yeah, he’s awesome. But you done any dirty jobs in White collar all the way. Oh, yeah sure. What are some of the things you did growing up, you know to this day?
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Starting out in childhood, you know So my my grandfather was a truck patch farmer. Okay, so we raised vegetables Watermelons cantaloupes tomato squash okra everything and So there was a lot of days in the fields picking, you know, yes And learn you learn how to handle produce and fresh produce and keep it from bruising and and getting all tore up
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Looking back that was an all right job, but I hated it when I was a child Did you ever eat the product all of it? Did he ever get mad at you for eating the product? He you know, you’re eating up all the profit The profit literally Yes, that’s a you know, but so then and also we we were involved with ranching and and Making hay custom hay baling custom hay hauling You know back then there was a lot of square bales We hauled it, you know our goal every day was to haul a thousand square bales a day when it during hay season yeah, and You know you still had daylight after that But if you stopped at a thousand you could come back tomorrow and you could do that every day So we had days where we hauled two thousand bales, but we didn’t work again for three or four days on that man, so that I mean if they were available to haul and if there was five thousand bales laying in the field we hauled a thousand a day and
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that way you know you didn’t get wore out too bad you could go home rest come back tomorrow and do it again shoot so after that I got in the concrete business yes I wasn’t I wasn’t in oklahoma grassfed beef business I worked for a concrete business okay, so we poured a lot of concrete and and a lot of long days early mornings and late evenings and cold days and Days you couldn’t work so it’s either all those jobs. I just described are all famine or feast Yeah, I mean it was good. Yeah, and it’s bad ones bad. Yeah, and not consistent. No not at all and so I Don’t know from there. Let’s see
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Just ranch jobs construction jobs bounce back and forth you whatever one’s going, you know, basically Wherever you could do to provide food for your families where you went.
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Yeah, so That’s you know, people say how do you know how to do so much, you know stuff I said necessity I mean I had to say to keep eating so you did So we you just learn how to do different things and pay attention and and learn from good people and it all works You know and you’ve lived in Chandler your whole life Yes, you know and we talked about this some too is like you could have taken a job in the city Oh, yeah, or you could have taken a job in the oil field and traveled, you know other states or you know But it was important for you to be home.
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Yeah, right So I’ve always I’ve always worked in Chandler around Chandler within a 30 -minute drive of Chandler like doing concrete and stuff You know, we didn’t ever go over an hour away from home
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But it was important to me. Like you said, I wanted to be home every night Well, I mean there was an occasional but I don’t write I didn’t want to be on the road I didn’t care to chase oilfield money and and you know Make a lot of money for three months and sit on your butt for six months, right? And or you know just stuff like that. I didn’t ever chase the big fast dollars and so it’s always just been kind of Stay going stay moving grind it out Learn different things learn different whatever’s paying at the time, right?
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Because you can run heavy equipment.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, you’re actually a really good heavy equipment.
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I’ve operated equipment quite a while and and Dozers excavators backhoes.
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I’m sure yeah, whatever skid steers.
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Yeah tractors mulchers grinders Man a lot of that stuff and I didn’t even bring that up in my job, you know stuff I’ve done before but yeah heavy equipment operator has been a big part of my life. So yeah
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Well, I wanted to bring that up. Okay for for you people watching, especially maybe the younger people watching Because I think in your late teens 20s It’s important to go do those tough jobs those jobs that nobody wants to do It’s also important for you to learn as much as you can. Okay, because in life You know a lot of the lot of the books we read and the things that now we teach is like you don’t Get paid by the hour. Okay, you might get paid by the hour But hear me out on this you get paid by the value you bring to that hour, right?
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The more skills you have the more value you bring the more the marketplace will reward you for that value Right when I when we decide to bring you on board, right?
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Remember thinking like it was gonna take a little more money to bring you on board than what I had thought, right? But your work history Has the value I’m like, okay. Wait a minute. This guy knows construction. He knows cows He knows heavy equipment operating you know everybody in town, right you like a Valuable Rolodex and we’ve done all that stuff since I’ve been here.
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We have ran equipment Yeah, you know done some house remodels and a little bit of everything we I mean and that’s I think that’s what it takes to to stay going is just don’t be scared to try anything and and Just learn what you you know You can why you can and like he’s talking about working hard while you’re young Yes I mean there’s a lot of advantages to being young and working because you don’t need as much sleep Your body recovers way faster. It does when you’re 45 or 50 and amen to that So
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Most of the time, young people are going to stay up and play on their phone anyway. They might as well be working. So they might as well find something to do, but yeah.
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And so I would encourage you guys to learn as many skills as possible. And what that might look like is you might be having a job where you’re doing concrete, but outside of those working hours, you might be watching your phone in today’s world and learning other trades and other skills, or you might be reading books. You might be going to college if that’s what you want to do. But stay in a mode of being hungry and learning and growing your skill set, because the marketplace will always reward you for your skill set and the value that you bring. And you have brought a lot of value and we’ve been able to remodel houses.
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You know, you might not know how to do everything perfect, but you know how to do everything, right? And you know enough that we can hire somebody else to come do something, and you know whether or not that’s getting done right, you know? And that’s super valuable.
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Yeah, you’ve been around a lot of different moving parts and pieces, and you just pick up and learn, and I think, you know, like you touched on there, like learning stuff, if you’re in a young person and you’re pouring concrete, when you go home and scroll your phone and watch videos tonight, let’s watch a few on how to pour concrete, because the way I did concrete, I guarantee you, was the hardest way it was ever established to pour concrete, like, you know, from squaring up to the finished product, whatever. And as I got further in my career as pouring concrete, I learned different steps and techniques, and.
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There’s people out there know how to do stuff a lot easier that end up with the same good quality result at the end Yes, so don’t be scared to try something a different way just because that’s the way you’ve always done it It doesn’t matter there. There’s people that can do things better not always but Be open -minded to that.
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Yes, so be constantly curious. Yeah, constantly curious constantly learning You know, but you never knew that the stuff you were doing in the moment that wasn’t fun and all that you never knew That that would pay you dividends later in life But what we’re trying to teach you today is is that is a hundred percent true You know when we’re trying to build a ranch and the ranch the ranch makes a ton of money, doesn’t it John?
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, so it makes zero dollars. It actually loses lots of dollars but one day it will make some make some money, but
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you know, we’ve been able to buy houses and remodel them and make money that away while building a ranch and Because he knows how to do all that stuff It makes it makes sense and we can we can at the end of the day make the venture Make sense financially, you know, and so I would just encourage you to always be growing your skill set whether it’s construction ranching oklahoma grassfed beef business, whatever it is and Never quit learning and big try to become more and more valuable Because those skills just come up later in life and you know how to do things and man Even if it’s for your own self, right you buy a house one day and you need to fix something You know how to fix it. Yeah, I know you’re telling your boys that oh, yeah Yeah, you know, well heck you built your own house.
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Yeah Yeah, that always helped you so Yeah, I’ll touch on the like doing the hard jobs and the jobs that aren’t fun and this and that and
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You know, it’s in your mind, you know, go to work and make it fun.
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Yes.
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You can enjoy yourself while you’re out pouring concrete. You can enjoy yourself doing anything. Sure. The work’s hard, but the reward, you know, when you go home with a paycheck and you can buy groceries and, and play whatever you want to play or whatever, you know, whatever you want to do with your money, you have money. But yeah, just work hard at it, but make it, make it fun. I mean, just get it in your mind. It’s going to be hard today, but it’s going to be a good day.
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There’s a lot of power to that. You know, here lately we’ve been cutting oklahoma grassfed beef cedar trees every Friday for an hour. And most people would say that sounds like not fun.
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That’s pretty fun.
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You know, but you know, we kind of made a joke out of it and a fun, we call it cowboy cardio. And you know, we go out there and work as hard as we can for an hour, cutting as many trees as we can. And then we get off and go, but we have a positive mindset going into it. We know it has to be done.
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We know the effect of cleaning up the land and killing those dang things. And, um, but it’s not a fun job, but you gotta make it fun, you know? And, and, uh, how you think about things between your ears is a big deal.
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Oh yeah. And, and getting, getting involved and getting other people involved in it. And like, you know, we go cut cedars, Bronson’s two or three of these boys will come with us and, you know, they play in the trees. They’ll drag a little brush or cut little trees down or whatever they can do, but they’re out there and, you know, that’s a pretty valuable.
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They’re seeing us work. Oh yeah. It’s good for them. It’s good for us. You know, they know we actually work.
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Yeah, that’s right. Don’t just tell them about it.
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So, so what’s it like, um, an average day in the life of a ranch manager?
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Well, when you’re by yourself, it’s pretty good. No, I’m just kidding. That’s a joke.
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So we, you know,
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Right now it’s winter time. So of course the the first thing on my mind every day is Is the livestock? Yes get out get them took care of make sure everybody’s where they’re supposed to be And they’re healthy. Yes, they got water food, whatever they need, you know, just make sure they’re tended to And then we have several, you know projects that you know, my boys are working here and yes building some pipe fence and so Get the oklahoma grassfed beef cows took care of go check on the guys and make sure that what they need or want or everything’s going okay and just keep keep moving and and going in a direction of getting you know, try to make stuff happen and
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I mean, I start out some days with a really good plan and there’s some days that I don’t get hardly any of that done. Right. But the there’s, but I get something done, but it’s just, it may not be what I had planned that day. Yes. And so you got to be, I don’t know, uh, adaptable adaptable. Yeah. So adaptable.
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Yeah. So you might look at the, I mean, I know a couple of weeks back, you looked at the sheep and went, we might need to worm some of them oklahoma grassfed beef.
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So we got them up.
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You know, that wasn’t on the list, but you had to do it.
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Yeah. And that’s one of the biggest thing I think with the livestock part of it is when you see one that you think needs something, just get it up and do it that day because tomorrow makes a big difference for them. It’s just like us when we get sick, the sooner we know we get healed or, or
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Take the steps to make ourselves better The better we have a chance of getting over everything and recovering right and so livestock’s the same way and they can’t speak to you But if you’ll pay a little bit of attention, they’ll show you they’ll show you they don’t feel good Their ears are drooping there, you know Mr.
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Bean or their demeanor is just off, you know so we’ve talked about this before but I think another one of the benefits of regenerative ranching and and doing the Rotational grazing as some of y ‘all might have heard of is you’re always every day. You’re with the animals Yes, so you’re keeping an eye on them.
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Yeah, so, you know, that’s one of the biggest things I have when we started talking about regenerative ranching and going this direction All the feedback we got from locally around people we knew ranchers around here was always too takes too much time It’s too long, you know
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But as a rancher, I mean we should be out with our animals, right at least, you know daily Yes, you know every day check in on them and I don’t I don’t know if you’re a rancher Why you wouldn’t want to do that part? Now I know some people have you know, their ranchers part -time after work, right?
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So yeah, it’s it’s kind of you know it’s your second job, so You know, you may have it may be dark when you go out, but Just use a brighter light There’s a lot of benefit to being out there and then in the spring and summertime, you know before it gets like winter Yes You know, we’re out there walking around with them and you might be moving them two three times a day and you’re when you’re moving them You’re you’re walking amongst them. Oh, yeah, you can see their feet. You can see their you know, the back side You can see the front side and you’re able to see the health of the animal and you might be like, hey
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we might need to move these animals a little faster. It might be too slow, you know, or hey, we might need to slow them down, you know, um, and, but, but you’re able to do it. There’s a lot of intentionality and a lot of good things that come out of ranching this way.
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Yeah. And like you said, we’re out there walking around these cows and they’re gentle. I mean, and these, these aren’t like, I don’t know, they’re not milk cows by no means. These are long horn cows. Some of them got 10 foot of horn on them, you know, if they swing their head and it’s not going to hurt them. Right. I mean, they don’t, they’re not, they’re gentle. I mean, it’s amazing how much your stock will gentle down and, and, uh, just be a being around them like that. And you could handle them and drive them to the lot or what, if you need to catch one, it’s not a big deal. Yes. You know, you don’t have to, you know, I used to catch a lot of wild cows, help catch a lot of wild cows. We go out and rope them and drag them.
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Time down whatever you had to do to get them caught and I mean when you start this road there when you open the gate They’re going yes, and if you open the gate to the to the corral, they’re going in the corral They don’t care where they’re going. They know they’re gonna get something some treat when they get there. Yes, so It’s a really it the jingling part of it is really good.
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I think it’s a big deal And so I think for you guys also to know too you know kind of why I wanted to also bring him on is you guys get to get to meet the ranch manager and Know that when you buy beef or lamb or goat from our ranch Like you get now you get a little inside track about how the animals are cared for the level of care that they have Right and you know was it will Harris has said that the the animals on his ranch have the best life They could ever have and then they have one bad day one bad moment one bad moment You know when their life is no more
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Uh, but other than that, they live the best life possible. And I’d like to think that, uh, we try to help our animals live the best life, po life possible. And then I th I believe that that leads to a better, more nutritious product. For you guys, you know, when it comes to feeding your family, I think there’s a lot to that and, um, that makes that me very valuable.
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Yeah. And it’s not just a, you know, it’s not just something we believe. It’s something that’s being proven. Fido nutrients is a huge thing now. They’re actually testing food to see how nutrient dense it is. Yes. So if you start seeing these regenerative labels on food, you should know it’s good food. Like the organic deal. I mean, I’m not against organic food, but there are so many rules and regulations and, and things with the organic deal that.
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It could be labeled organic and not really be organic. So right.
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You need to watch that but Yes, I’m not trying to start any fights with organic people but there is true though and Yeah, they even say some too by having a general or animal, you know when it comes time for their life to end Yeah, not releasing a bunch that animal not getting super stressed and releasing a bunch of hormones and adrenaline and whatever else goes off Before they die, right? You know that if they say sometimes that affects the meat as well So our animals when they go into the butcher, I mean they’re calm. Yeah, you know, there’s no Because they’re used to being handled. They’re used to humans You’re not taking something that ain’t seen a human in a long time outside of a pickup truck And then they’re bucking and going crazy. And you know when I worked at the butcher shop, I’d see that They bring these cows in they are going nuts. Oh, yeah, you know and
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you know sometimes that leads to that that meat being not as good as it could be yeah I think the only way they could be any any more quiet about you know getting harvested would be right to kill him in the pasture right you know that’d be whether eat and just shoot him and that you know you know they weren’t so dang heavy that’d be a pretty good well I hope you guys have enjoyed this episode I think it was cool having mr. John Wayne on the and y ‘all y ‘all be seeing some more John Wayne he loves podcasting podcasting but you know thanks for the support and until next time until next time