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y ‘all welcome back to another episode of the y ‘all are crazy ranch podcast you might have noticed the title of today’s show and thought what what are the what in the world and there’s an explanation for that yes so we’re continuing on with the the rage bait theme that we talked about on a couple other episodes of so the title is don’t be a quitter and because I thought you know what that’s gonna get a lot more attention
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And then the follow -up to that is have more kids have more kids.
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I can’t hear myself in this Can you am I okay?
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Yeah, I take this off then it seems to be working. Okay, so maybe it’s not plugged in So but why would we have an episode about having more kids?
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Why are you asking me? Well, the reason for that is because we just found out we are expecting our Eighth child number eight our eighth child. Yes. We just told our kids a few days ago and Told my parents today and we’re starting to tell more people so we’re like, okay let’s just share with our podcast followers and
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Get the word out there a little bit because we are really excited number eight will be here in February Did you ever think we would have eight children never never never never you know what I was talking to somebody a couple days ago about you know, I said an eighth kid and and They couldn’t believe it, you know, these are a couple of young guys, right? They’re newly married They don’t have any kids and so I was encouraging them to have a lot of kids and I said guys It’s not we don’t go from zero kids to eight, right? Thankfully Thankfully cuz that would be difficult. I was like usually you have one at a time, right? And when you just have one and then you add one
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You get used to it as you go right and it’s not as difficult, you know, and so It’s not as daunting of a task as some people might think because you don’t just start with eight Yeah, we haven’t had any multiples and so some people do go like to two or two three really quickly Ours have all been one at a time.
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I did have an ultrasound this week and they did confirm There is only one. Yes, so we have already verified that I was kind of hoping for two You were you were like that’d be great if we had twins And I’m just you know, when I saw one I was just kind of like, okay done this before I know I know what this is like. So Another kind of crazy thing about that is we’re both going to be 40
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you’re gonna turn 40 in February and I’m gonna turn 40 at the first part of March the baby is due like in the middle of our birthdays right so I should still be 39 when I have the baby you’ll be 40 already most likely so for our 40th birthday God decided to give us another baby yeah so we’re excited about it but yeah it’s gonna be awesome yeah we’re really excited I did want to start off reading a verse that we love it’s from one Psalms 127 verse 3 4 and 5 and 6 so Psalms 127 verses 3 through actually 3 through 5 5 just has a little B so
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Here we go. Behold children are a heritage from the Lord The fruit of the womb is a reward like arrows in the hand of a warrior So are the children of one’s youth happy is the man who has his quiver full of them They shall not be ashamed, but shall speak with their enemies in the gate It’s pretty powerful.
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So it says children are a burden. Is that what it says?
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It does not say a burden.
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Oh They’re inconvenienced. Is that what it said?
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It does not say that.
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Okay. What did it say?
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Children are a heritage Heritage we were telling our reward. That’s right We were telling our kids other night and we we said hey kids Like what does the Bible say about having children and our oldest son Bowen said hmm be fruitful and multiply And we’re like it does say that to say that is actually in Genesis So but then we started talking to them about Psalms 127
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and what God says, you know, in the world, there’s such sometimes a negative connotation when it comes to like having lots of children or having more than what’s normal for children and for us, we just don’t buy into that lie. We just think that’s a lie of Satan. When you look at children as an inconvenience, a burden, they’re too expensive, they take up all your time, they take your freedom away. Those are just really lies from the enemy because I mean, our children, you know, some of it’s like, are they, do they cost money? Sure, but it’s like, I don’t think that’s a reason to not have children. You can find other ways to save money if that’s the reasoning. Do they take your time? Yes, but in the best way.
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Right for in the best way like for us like there’s nothing we’d rather be doing on a Saturday Then going to watch our sons in a wrestling tournament or watching our daughter Cheerlead or play basketball on the weekdays like that. We love it.
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There’s nothing we love more than going on a family vacation Together it’s just the best it is the best, you know, and it’s it’s sad to see our Western societies like look at children as a burden and Some people don’t want to have kids or they want to have one kid, you know or two at max and quit
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I’m not saying everybody needs to have a large family, but we’re trying to be a positive voice to let people know Hey, there’s another way to look at this deal, right? You don’t have to look at it the way that society is trying to make you view it and large families according to the scripture right is is a reward and a blessed man has a lot of kids and I think if you start looking at it that away and What starts with having the Christian foundation too, but man your life becomes so full when you have a lot of kids it does it just I mean in a lot of ways, but Even just like spiritually in the way you feel and being around them Well, it honestly takes the focus off yourself.
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It definitely there’s no room for selfishness when you have a large family
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That’s the truth. Not that you shouldn’t make time for yourself and your health and having things you enjoy, but it does. It takes the selfishness off of you to where you never think, well, I deserve a girls night or I deserve this. It doesn’t become like that. Not to say you shouldn’t go have lunch with friends or do things that you enjoy doing, but it just makes it to where your vision is more clear of what really matters.
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Well, I think the older we get to, the more we realize and look at life differently and everybody does as they age usually. And it’s like we value things.
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like family time a whole lot more the older for sure we value bringing another life into the world and sitting around the supper table with all these kids you know and seeing all their faces and having conversation and bringing up memories of oh you remember that one time you know last year or when we took this trip and did this and we were talking about that a lot you can’t do that if you don’t have very many kids well you can but not as much or your family that gets divorced right stuff like that and your family breaks apart you don’t get those moments like that where you’ve been building a family for a long time and you’re close together and we just want to tell everybody like that’s a beautiful thing and encourage you you know
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To walk down that path and and not be scared to have kids, you know When we got married people would tell us, you know don’t have kids for a few years and y ‘all just go enjoy life and enjoy each other and it’s like Again, that’s just another subtle way of saying that the kids are gonna be an inconvenience, right? Because if they’re making you do this before you have kids so you can enjoy your life and have fun that’s even being taught like in church culture for sure like, you know, Have your life first get married and spend your time together first and we just think like, you know, you don’t have to do that No, we could have had another kid or two if we’d uh, you know Like we said, we don’t regret anything We’re happy with how you know, our marriage started out and we had our daughter three years in but we’re also like hey You don’t have to wait if you don’t if you don’t want to wait one of the biggest things we hear whenever We talk to somebody who’s older
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or from a couple who’s already decided to stop having children and made the permanent decision. I guess she would say not to. Almost all of them tell us, I wish I would have had more kids.
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Yeah. I mean, we’ve told a handful of people, you know, that we’re having another one and like the response is usually I wish, I wish we had more.
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It’s either that or y ‘all are crazy.
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Yeah, we’re like, or both.
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Hence the ranch name. And the podcast name. Like, we get it. We are crazy. We do live a crazy life, I guess you would say. But to us, it just feels right.
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It does feel right. And man, when you talk to somebody in their 70s or 80s and they look at us and they say, you know, one of my only regrets is I just, I wish we would have had more kids.
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We hear that a lot.
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You know, my kids are grown. They move to wherever across the country. I don’t get to see them. I wish I had more. And it’s like,
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You know, it’s kind of sad when that happens, you know and we’ve met some other big families and you know, they share how cool it is to have Christmas together and Like if we have eight kids and just them all getting married. Yeah, and that’s 16 Just with their spouse.
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We were talking to our kids about that the other night and it’s hard for kids to really see Like the bigger picture and the future, you know when you’re a kid You just you can’t see it yet and we were trying to tell our kids like paint that picture for them Imagine that you guys weddings you’re gonna have a whole wedding party just with your siblings And imagine our family Christmases when we’re all together and like you guys have children and I mean It’s just amazing to think about it is amazing. I was telling our pastor’s wife because our pastor and his wife have eight kids
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And I went and hugged her this morning and I said, I have something to tell you, we’re gonna be tied soon. And she got it like that.
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She knew what you meant.
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She knew what I meant. And she said, oh my goodness, you know I am your biggest cheerleader. She’s like, that’s just so awesome. So it was sweet.
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Yes, it was pretty neat. But we will say, if you do decide to go outside of the norm of having one to two kids, you don’t get a lot of love for doing that.
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There’s not a lot of celebrations when you have three plus children.
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There’s not.
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You’re not gonna get a lot of understanding. You’re not gonna have a lot of people that are like.
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oh my gosh I can’t wait yeah they’re like really why and you’re like man yeah you know it’s a bit of a sucker punch honestly we’re bringing them in there’s another life coming into the world like what’s different about number four the number one you know like why aren’t you excited as excited for number four as you were for number one right you know and so just a fair warning that’s kind of what we’ve experienced you’re gonna have if you want to have a large family you’re gonna have to be bold and stand up to what the world’s gonna say because the world is not gonna approve society’s not gonna improve approve a lot of friends and family may not either but you just have to know what you want what your desire is and what God’s plan is for your family and you have to be very secure in that you do so but it is a hundred percent worth it and sometimes a lot of people like
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In the beginning might not be you know as excited or whatever But then as the years go by then they start making those comments Oh, man, my kids 14 like where my kids 16. I don’t got a couple years left.
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They’re gonna be gone You know, then they’re like, I don’t know what we’re gonna do the cool thing I think for us at this point is by the time the baby gets here Our daughter will be 14 and our oldest Oklahoma Grassfed Beef son will be 13 It’s like we’re still gonna be raising a child and hopefully be having grandkids at the same time Yeah, so I don’t think we’re gonna have any time where we’re like, what do we do? Because we’re always gonna be raising children or helping raise children at that point Yeah, so that’s pretty cool pretty cool One thing I think that’s helped me is I have a good friend and we’ve had I think our last three or four pregnancies together
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And she’s also expecting number eight. And she tells me, she’s like, it’s just, I might not have had as many if I wouldn’t have had a crazy friend like you. Because we make it seem normal to each other and we know it’s not normal, but it’s just like having another friend to celebrate that with you and make you not feel as weird, that’s nice.
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It is nice and it’s funny because I don’t know who always gets pregnant first. I think we switch sometimes.
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We had one that was, we were eight days apart. Really close.
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But here lately, it’s like when one of us gets pregnant, we know the other one’s not too far behind.
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Right, and it’s funny because every time right after we have a baby, we’re just like, okay, I think we’re done. Like, I think that’s good. And then about a year in, we’re both like, hmm, are we done?
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Yeah.
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What does Luke call it like phase three, you know phase one is not gonna have any more phase two You’re like, well, we’re not gonna say no Here you go phase three let time go by yeah, but to me I’m like, hey You know you chose to stop and we did not. Yeah so, you know the one of the ways we look at it too is We’re not on this earth for very long, right? You know, maybe we’ll make it 80 years, you know something like hopefully we live longer but You know, you’re not on the earth for very long We’ve already been on it for almost 40 years and it’s like man that went by fast
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And we start thinking about the purpose of life. And again, we look at life through a Christian worldview, which makes all the difference. Because if you don’t, you don’t see it the same way. But it’s like, you know, every child that God blesses us with, you know, we get to then in turn, disciple and raise and build the kingdom of heaven. And hopefully they can go out into the world and do the same and lead more people to Christ. And it’s like when you think about that being your mission, that’s a pretty powerful mission for sure. And other things in life become less important. You know, I don’t need the private vacation on a beach for two weeks. You know what I mean? I don’t need the new car all the time or.
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You know, whatever might be more important in today’s world than having another kid So the pastor our pastor this morning prayed to close out our BBS week and I was like had tears in my eyes because he prayed like Lord, please help these kids like, you know live for you live their life for you and make Satan It was like he said something so powerful and I can’t quote a verbatim But it was like may Satan quake at the thought of what they’re going to do for God’s kingdom Yeah, and I was just like This just made me emotional because That’s what I want for our kids I want the way they live their life to be so powerful that Satan feels defeated. Oh Man, you know, yeah, that makes me that was what makes me feel fulfilled is like raising that next generation in such a way that
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God wins and that’s what our mission is. So I think when that’s your mission and your heart’s in the right place, God provides.
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Well I mean you just read in the Psalms when he’s talking about you know a child is like an arrow in a man’s quiver and blessed is a man whose quiver is full and it’s like babe we got we have eight arrows you know and it’s a it’s a lot of fun to to raise them and teach them the word and it’s just really fun doing life together and I feel like society wants everybody to be selfish in society and only look out for yourself and what makes you feel good and they lie to you about what it is that makes you feel good. The material items and the things like that
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stuff is hollow and only makes you feel good for a moment and then it’s over. Right? Having a large family or having a lot of kids, I can’t tell you like how fulfilling that is. And that’s lifelong. That’s right. We get to share all these moments with them. Like this last week we got to give Barlow a new bike for his birthday and he didn’t want training wheels. So we had to buy a bike with the size of the bike that fits him. But I mean he wanted those things off and we took him off and and taught him how to ride his bike and just seeing the excitement on his face and now he just does laps up and down.
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They learn so quickly.
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Yeah, I mean he wrecked a bunch.
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But it’s just that’s like those moments are awesome seeing the excitement on his face of how to learn to ride a bike and different Things it’s like man How many times can you repeat that it’s fun? Yeah, things like that that we get to experience over and over and we’ve talked about like if you only have one or two Man that goes by so quickly and your parenthood just goes by so quickly But when you have a large family, it’s like, oh my gosh I feel so blessed that we get to have a Oklahoma Grassfed Beef baby again and we have a toddler right now and you’re getting to like Experience these things over and over our pastor said last week He’s had to apologize to his older kids many times because he’s like man I’m a different dad with my younger kids than I was with my older kids And you learn and you get better and and we were like that is so true So we told our big kids that the other night because they were talking about you know, the baby
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He was in his high chair and I was I gave him a bowl of Cool Whip With the spoon I was gonna give him blueberries, but you ate them all Yeah, so he just had a bowl of Cool Whip and he I mean loving it like of course and Bradley’s like Did you give him a bowl of Cool Whip? I’m like, yeah, he loves it. She’s like mom You would have never given me that she’s like I didn’t even have sugar for my first year and you made all my baby food yourself And I’m like, yeah sis, I did I said but I’m a different mom now.
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Different mom. Do you think since you don’t have a headset you can turn that alarm off? I’ve got an alarm going on my phone And make sure you turn it off and don’t snooze it Yeah Is the video still going? Good. Sometimes you have adversity
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actually. Yeah. Okay. Start it again. There we go.
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So we are.
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But that is true. You’re a different parent with your younger kids because you’ve learned lessons. You’ve made mistakes and he was talking about how mistakes that he had made and we’ve made a ton of them too and that is a that is a real thing. But that’s also what’s so fun about it. And then your oldest kid gets to you know realize that and make funny comments to you and you get now you get to have another kind of a moment there.
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Well and it’s so crazy because you’ll you’ll hear people who are like your kids are gonna be so far apart like they’re not gonna have any kind of relationship they’re never gonna bond and it’s like that’s just
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lie because our oldest and our youngest right now I mean like super close yeah our oldest two and our youngest two like they’re like best friends it’s so sweet to watch our oldest to like help care for the younger to be spend time with them play with them I mean the little to just think they are the best thing in the world it’s awesome it’s so sweet and it’s gonna prepare them to be parents someday and they’re gonna be like I know I know how to do this because I helped with my family and they’re gonna be excited for it yeah and in situations like that for me anyways I’m oh I’m kind of a deep thinker I like to you know ponder on stuff and think deeply about it and it’s like nowhere in that Holy Bible does it say
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to only have one kid or no kids or You know, it doesn’t say just to stop right it talks about how blessed everywhere talks about children talks about how they’re a blessing you know, and it’s like when you Start to realize that you start to look at that differently and then you have these situations like this That’s like Bradley’s getting to help her a little baby brother and that’s preparing her from when she becomes a mother one You’re like, huh, I bet God designed it like that right, you know Well, we used to have we had like that where it’s like we used to live that way more in village style Where the older ones would teach the younger ones, but now we’re so spread out as a society We don’t get that right and so a lot of times like when you become a mom You’ve never changed a diaper, you know, you don’t know how to breastfeed or things like that. And so
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think it’s a really big deal and I think it will really play into the kids favor that they they’ve experienced it they have it’s I can’t tell you all the experiences we’ve come across like that that it’s like man that’s what you get to experience if you just keep having kids you know and in the moments they get with their siblings and lessons that they learn and how that will help them in life and think about like just the network they’re gonna have with each other it’s like man y ‘all I was telling Bowen the other day that y ‘all will have quite the posse remember that he was like what is that you know it’s like you know it’s like with the OSU Cowboys they call it each other the posse you know you’re like the gang the the group that fights together and has each other’s backs it’s like y ‘all are gonna have I mean there’s gonna be 80 as of now yeah
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I wish I had that, that would be incredible.
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Yeah, so we tell the kids we’re creating that for you guys, we’re building that for you. And so, yeah, we’re really excited. We’re also excited because we’re building our Oklahoma Grassfed Beef house and we’re gonna have more room. So the room that was, it was originally in the floor plan as a very large storage closet. It’s not a large room, it would just have been a large, it would have been a very large storage closet. So when we started building the Oklahoma Grassfed Beef house, I was like, let’s make this into like a workout room. And that’ll be great. Well, then when we found out we were gonna have another baby, I was like, okay, it’s the nursery because it’s right off our master. So we already have a nursery ready to go for the new baby now.
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That’s gonna be perfect.
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Yes.
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And we’ll be plenty settled in by the time the baby comes.
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That’s also, we could do entire podcasts on when we have moved over the years. I shared a story the other day on Facebook because Barlow just turned six.
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And whenever I was very far along pregnant with him, we decided to sell our Oklahoma Grassfed Beef house. And I have pictures of us packing the pod when I was 40 weeks pregnant.
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Yeah, I remember.
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40 weeks pregnant. And we had him came home to our house that was completely packed up. We left two recliners. I don’t even know why we left recliners. Why did we not leave a bed? Who knows? But anyway, we slept in recliners in our living room for a few days with our newborn and our four other children at that time. And then moved into an Airbnb for 10 days because our new house was being painted. And then finally got to move into our new house. And it’s like, yep, y ‘all are crazy. Yeah. But we have lots of stories like that. So the fact that we get to just move into this house, be settled for a few months, and then bring a baby home like normal people seems odd.
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It’s gonna be great.
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Yet amazing.
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Yeah, it’s gonna be great. It’s gonna be great, but we just wanted to encourage people to Pray about this decision. This isn’t a decision you take lightly But pray about it read the word Talk with your spouse and this is some effort and thinking into yeah, and this is our conviction Yeah, not everybody’s gonna have this conviction, right? There are people that don’t want to have kids There’s people that only want one or two or are only able to yeah being able to is a whole different story That’s why we consider it a blessing because we are able to because we have friends that can’t have babies and it’s like or can’t have more Yeah, or have lost babies. Yeah It’s very sad. So for us every child that God blesses us with we see it as a big blessing you know, and we want to be a voice to just encourage people to You know to step out in that kind of faith because there’s not many voices encouraging people to do that. There’s plenty more encouraging the other way
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You know for sure.
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So we want to be yeah, we want to be a voice that says yeah do it like is it scary? Sure, is it hard? Absolutely, but who said hard is bad. Yeah, just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it’s bad Just because it’s challenging doesn’t mean it’s not worthwhile We’re here to tell you that it’s worth it.
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It’s worth it. Let the world call you crazy That’s right. And the more they start saying that and more I’m like good, you know, you’re doing something, right?
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Honestly when the world is telling you you’re crazy you you stand out. You’re not normal I always tell the kids like why are you trying so hard to fit in when you were born to stand out? God made you to be different. He made you to stand out and ultimately he made you for his purpose Yeah, he made you to serve him. He made you to do his will
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And that’s what we see. And having children, bringing children to the world that God has equipped us, allowed us, and trusted us with these children. And we just wanna fulfill that calling.
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Yeah, and He will equip you, you know, when you start having kids and needn’t have more, you know, He ain’t gonna let you down and you will make it through it. And there will be some scary moments probably and stuff that are, it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. It is challenging. Don’t get me wrong. But what we’re telling you is the good moments are far outweigh the tough times.
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That’s right. So that’s what we wanted to be an encouragement today. Definitely not like bashing anyone by any means, because like we said, not everybody wants a big family. Not everyone can have a big family. Some have had loss along the way and we want to be tender toward that because that is a very hard thing.
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but we do want to encourage those who want a big family to work toward that and be open to it. The way I like to say for us is we are open to life.
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That’s right.
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We’re not cutting it off, but we’re open to it, and we’re just letting God’s will be done. And I think when you do that and you live that way, you just feel like you’re in God’s plan.
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Yeah, that’s the way to be.
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So, yeah, but if you are gonna have a big family, like root yourself, ground yourself in God’s word, root yourself as a couple, because if you are not a solid Christian couple with the same values, I really can’t imagine, first of all, like you have to have God at the center. Yeah.
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I don’t know that it would work otherwise.
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Yeah, I can’t imagine not. You have to have God at the center. You have to raise your kids in God’s word. You have to make it a priority to take your kids to church. You have to teach your kids God’s word and how much He loves them. And then you have to be an example to them to show them the way.
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Yeah, which is tough to do at times.
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We’ve been learning in VBS a lot this week and Benaiah, you know, is mine. He’s been repeating the verses this week and they’re all like Mark 8 -12 and about being a light to the world and how Jesus was a light in the world, how we should be a light. And one of the kids at lunch today said, I didn’t get to write my verse down so I don’t remember it. And Benaiah said, I don’t have to write things down.
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He’s like I just put it in my mind and and the thing is is like he’s being serious when he’s very serious He’s not bragging about himself whatsoever. He’s just very matter -of -fact But you know, he calls it an answer book in his mind, which is what he has He literally does and I mean when he got home he recited that verse to me because you asked him to and it was Like man, well when I was walking the other day and he was riding his bike beside me He was just repeating these verses that he’d been learning and I thought was cool because he I was like, okay Well, what does that mean?
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And he’s like, well, it just means that we’re supposed to be the light of the world He’s like but like you are mom Like that’s how we’re supposed to be and I was like, that’s really cool that he actually understands what that means
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and he gets it and he’s eight. So your kids, you can teach them, you can teach them God’s word and teach them the way they should live and you’re not gonna be perfect and they’re not gonna be perfect and you’re gonna do life together. But what’s cool is you’re gonna look back and time goes by so fast. And you’re gonna look back at pictures along the way and I’ve often heard people say you’re never going to regret having more children but you might regret not having more children.
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And we have heard that a lot over the years, like a lot, a lot. And so we just felt like, hey, we’re having number eight, let’s have this podcast and maybe encourage somebody or a family that’s thinking about having more kids but maybe other folks are encouraging them not to.
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You’re gonna have to stand, you’re gonna have to, with your spouse, you’re gonna have to be a united front.
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Yeah.
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Know what you want, know what God’s calling you to and live it out.
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That’s right.
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Yeah, and find people around you who support you and and there will be there will be those people But you need to be solid Oklahoma Grassfed Beef and who you are who God’s made you and what you want for your family. That’s right So have more kids It’s gonna be great more updates along the way I keep yawning this time because I am in the tired mode right now. I get a full night’s sleep and I wake up Tired and it’s crazy, but that’s where we are So more updates along the way as we go and we can’t wait to announce in about I don’t know five or six weeks. We’ll be able to announce hopefully the gender. Yeah, so that’s really exciting That’s gonna be fun. See ya. So thanks for joining us today and we’ll see you next time next time